Sam Green... Jesus vs Muhammad Debate

Sam Green (my boss) went to a debate in Wagga in NSW for a debate last week. Below is his account of how things unfolded.* Sam is a Islamic and Muslim ninja. He has written a truckload of stuff on Islam, Muhammad and the Koran which I highly recommend (see here).


Dr. Abdulla gave a standard explanation of Jesus and Muhammad according to Islam. He majored on monotheism. He had visited my website at Answering Islam and this may have influenced how he presented his material.

I was very happy with the debate. I felt I presented the gospel in a way that preempted Islamic objections and made it clear that Muhammad does not agree with the prophets. When I dealt with Muhammad I made it clear that there is the politically correct version and the Muhammad of the earliest sources.

Dr. Abdulla's rebuttal was to say that Muhammad's really respect Jesus. He
then claimed that it was universally agreed that Muhammad could not write and so the Qur'an was miraculous. The Qur'an is 1/3 about God, 1/3 about governance, 1/3 about ethics. He said God doesn't change his word. The Qur'an was memorized completely by Muhammad and his followers. Islamic Spain was a model of tolerance where Christians evangelists were
never killed.


My rebuttal was to define Christian monotheism. Explain that the references to Jesus in the Qur'an come from Christians apocryphal sources. That there is good evidence that Jesus died: Roman, Jewish, Christian, prophets. I told the hadith in Bukhari that showed that Muhammad could write. I said there is 1/3 of the Qur'an on jihad. That Allah does change is word, it is called abrogation.

The textual evidence for the oldest Qur'ans shows a clear history of development into it final form and therefore the claim of memorization is a myth. In Spain there were many Christian martyrs and converts where killed.

I think that many Muslims are ashamed of what the Qur'an says and what
Muhammad did, but they find themselves stuck in not being able to say this.
Shame is the main driving factor in this culture rather than truth. We need
to think of how to help them through this shame. I was also reminded yet again that Muslims are real people and delightful to talk to. By God's grace I had many evangelistic conversations after the meeting.
*(I've edited the original report. If you like the full text email me and I can pass it on.)

 

2 comments:

Stan and Clare said... 6/03/2007 3:01 pm  

Mike - I'd love a full text. That would be great!

BSJ-rom said... 6/04/2007 11:49 am  

I was also reminded yet again that Muslims are real people and delightful to talk to. By God's grace I had many evangelistic conversations after the meeting.

How easily do we forget this, sad as it is?

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