I've got a feeling (a bit of an inkling)

I must admit that the idea of selling tickets to the upcoming Mark Driscoll (evangelistic?) events in Sydney has left me feeling a little uncomfortable... doesn't this encourage them to end up just being huge Christian fan fests?



RodeoClown said... 8/22/2008 10:57 am  

This is going to be one of those days.

I got the impression it wasn't meant to be particularly evangelistic, more meant as a bit of a [sh|w]ake up for Christians.

Chris said... 8/22/2008 1:07 pm  

random and undeveloped thought... but maybe it taps into the secular idea that if something is good then it would be worth paying for... i.e if it's worth paying for then people might not be too afraid that it is going to be crap.

but I can understand your hesitation!

hope Hobart is treating you well brother!

mike said... 8/22/2008 1:48 pm  

Actually Chris I reckon that's a pretty good reflection. Mikey and I were chatting about this a while back and he said a similar thing.

Alan said... 8/22/2008 5:34 pm  

Chris' reflections seem pretty good..

But I kind of share your discomfort too..

Laura said... 8/23/2008 6:06 am  

I didn't know they were meant to be evangelistic. But my initial thought is like Chris's.

BSJ-rom said... 8/23/2008 7:48 pm  

Hmmm. Mhmmm.

Despite having to get up ridiculously early for the recent music conference down at Kingo, I was prodded in a surprising direction.

The particular thought related to "emotion" in music. I assume a certain concern about Christian fan fests. In our rather anti-emotion churches (where we are scared that our minds aren't going to be in control), we seem so against the power of music, of large gatherings, of being caught up in a moment.

I recall Eddie Jones (ex-coach of Wallabies) saying that he wanted his players to be consistent, for emotion not to play a part in their play.

Yet it seems that in every other context, even most Christian contexts, emotion is channelled.

Much more can be said on the topic, but I fear I might have missed the point, so I might stop there...

Hope you're doing well Herr Jolly.

Anonymous said... 8/24/2008 6:24 pm  

Lots of interesting sensible people read your blog Mike because when I read your initial post I thought hmm that sounds dodgy but then the collective comments from your readers seem to answer the problem well.

Anonymous said... 8/26/2008 11:49 am  

Doesn't Paul address the idea of paying for something good in 2 Corinthians with the superapostles?


Anthony Rochester said... 8/27/2008 10:36 am  

I don't even know who Mark Driscoll is. Its like one of those bands such as 'death cab for cutie' where you hear people say the name a lot but never hear what they sound like. But if you hear people saying the name a lot, it means that they must be good, and think they might be worth checking out.

If I hear some band on JJJ being hyped up and they say there's a special website free download available, I'm not interested, because the publicity is coming from a marketing campaign rather than from actual people.

The thing about celebrity christian speakers is that in essence they're not doing anything that local church dudes don't or can't do, its just the big name that people recognise (especially cool if they're from America!) that attracts people. right?

Pryderi said... 8/27/2008 12:46 pm  

I agree with Anthony. And I have no idea what Jerome is on about ;)

Surely the price of admission to this thing is to cover the cost of flying the speaker over and putting him and his family up? If that's the case, then it's no different to paying for any other sort of Christian day conference.

Bron said... 8/27/2008 4:41 pm  

That and the cost of hiring the Sydney Convention Centre (huge facility in Darling Harbour)

mike said... 8/28/2008 11:54 am  

Pryderi I'd be happy to put him up at my house...

Pryderi said... 8/28/2008 4:50 pm  

Just make sure you hide your green tea collection.

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